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DISCLAIMER: I ONLY DID THIS FOR FUN, I DO NOT THINK I'M BETTER THAN DISNEY

So while I liked Frozen and consider it one of the best modern Disney movies, I disliked the design of the human characters, ESPECIALLY the women. Not only that but their animation was very 'safe' and while they had good expressions I felt they were trying too hard to make them pretty. 

I redesigned Elsa here; www.kittengoo.deviantart.com/a…  And I decided to take a shot on her sister Anna. Through this I decided to take the opportunity to show 4 examples of what I believe Disney should improve regarding their female characters. 

1) More POC This Anna is based on Inuit culture and is wearing Inuit styled jewelry I found during research. I believe Disney needs more minorities in their films, ESPECIALLY the Disney Princess franchise. Tiana, Mulan, Pocahontas, and Jasmine ARE NOT enough compared to the overwhelming amount of white princesses. No they are NOT culturally diverse because most of their kingdoms are fictional, so please no 'SNOW WHITE IS GERMAN' arguments. 

2) More physical flaws This Anna has roundish glasses and freckles, which are considered physical imperfections. While the original Anna DOES have freckles, they still don't tarnish her appearance.  Now I do not mean giving the main character a giant pulsing wart but a certain imperfection that a lot of people have. A lot of people I know have glasses and have been ridiculed by wearing them. I think the only Princess I can think of with a flaw is Merida whom has a wild mane of hair. It makes her stand out from the rest in a good way! :) If Milo Tatch was allowed to have glasses, Anna could certaily have a pair too (and if you tell me that it's 'historically inaccurate' I won't respond since that argument is null and void in regard to a film that pays no attention to history and it's set in a fictional world). 

3) More variations of body types This is my chubby Anna whom is modelled after Tracy Turnbald from 'Hairspray'. She's bigger than most girls but happy nonetheless. Every single Disney princess has the same body type (except maybe Merida). Now if you argue that 'THIS MAY PROMOTE AN UNHEALTHY LIFESTYLE' then look at this; www.fitdeskjockey.com/wp-conte…Some people are BORN this way, this is NOT obesity. This should be done in order to show that 'stick skinny' isn't the norm. It will make girls feel like human beings. 

4) More risks This is my disabled Ana. Instead of accidentally freezing her hair, Elsa accidentally freezed her sister's eye. Sure it's 'dark' but Disney has done way worse. Look at Quasimodo he's ENTIRELY deformed AND The protagonist of a Disney film. Also look at Dreamworks! They have Hiccup who's MISSING A LEG. We need more representation of disabled people in the mainstream media.  

And that's all I have for you folks! Like I said, I really liked Frozen but we can do better!

What kind of Princess would YOU like to see? :)
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Nanahuatli Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2014
I like all four of them. Maybe one-eyed Anna would satisfy me the most because it's the riskiest. Girls are never permitted to be lacking a part of their bodies or a function; Hiccup and Quasi are male. Girls have to be pretty. Anna with Glasses would be nice, but it's kind of tame. Chubby Anna would also be fantastic. I find chubby girls like Tracy adorable. POC Anna would give more variety to the rather boring roster of Princesses.
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Impulse-Comics Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student Artist
While I respect what you're saying, but aren't you taking disney too seriously? I mean I don't want a stick thin princess what about a princess who is more fit? A princess with, hold onto your genitals here, green or hazel eyes? But the main issue is the issue of personality, there's only two types of personalities in Disney. 
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Because this is media directed at children and they should have healthier looking rolemodels so they won't feel bad about themselves?
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Impulse-Comics Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student Artist
Yes, that's true, but why do we have to rely on TV and Movies to be role models? I'm a kid myself and I just like the stories of the movies, and so does my little sister. Can't entertainment be just entertainment, the second you try to make it overly politically or societally correct, is the moment the stories suffer as a result…What really should be the problem is that Disney has been lacking in it's story telling, simplifying their plots to a formula. It's kind of sad, think of Sleeping Beauty, or since you're very sensitive about this, Princess and the Frog, both I loved not because of the princesses but because of the songs, the present art style and the stories being told in the movie. If anything we should be upset that these films suggest that you should marry the first guy you spend more than 24 hours with…which is a dangerous assessment at all. 
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avatark0rra Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014
I'd say that a big problem is the lack of creative freedom that animators, directors and fimmakers have.

There are a lot of people who want to make good stories, or movies with diverse casts, but Hollywood won't let them. The main goal Hollywood executives have is to make money, and so they often put limits on what filmmakers can do.

So they give them a bunch of rules. Like, "you can't have too many women in this movie," or "the main character can't be black or Asian." The reason is because they say that women and PoC are not "profitable" enough, and that western audiences relate better to white men than women or PoC. They also say that if you make an action movie about a woman, or a romantic film with an interracial couple, it will not be successful because "nobody wants to watch movies about minorities."
Same thing goes for people who want to make good stories. A lot of the time, Hollywood will be like "you need more comedic moments," "you need more pop culture references," "you need the main male character to have a sexy lady by his side," or "you need female characters to get naked" so that audiences will like it better.

And if filmmakers don't follow their rules, then Hollywood cancels their movie, or boots them and finds a new director. That's why we see a lot of crappy or boring movies sometimes. Because Hollywood wants cookie cutter stories, and characters who are attractive white/straight/able-bodied/men as the main character the majority of the time.

That is why I am critical on Hollywood most of the time. I want to be an animator or a filmmaker someday, and I don't want my movie to be cancelled because I want a diverse cast, or a "different" story.

That is also why I am an advocate for diversity in Hollywood. Hollywood often refuses to greenlight (or fund) movies that are about women, PoC, LGBTQ+, or disabled people. And I think that is wrong because there are a lot of talented people who want diverse movies, or talented people who are minorities themselves. I always have to listen to PoC and female actors speak about being typecasted because they are minorities, or told that they will "never be successful" because Hollywood is meant for white men.

Now, this doesn't mean I think Frozen is racist. I don't think there's anything wrong with a movie that has an all-white cast, especially if it is set in Europe.. I think the bigger problem is that people who want diverse casts can't make their own movies because Hollywood will reject them. I think everyone should have the right to make whatever movies they please. Then we would have a lot more unique films and stories come out of Hollywood, and characters who are diverse in race, body type, sexual orientation, gender, etc.
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Impulse-Comics Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Student Artist
Holy crap, that is literally what I've been trying to say, I just haven;t been able to find the words! Thank You! I agree 100% with this entire statement. And I'm a teen now, but hopefully when I'm writing movies and animating for disney, things'll be different. And my 12 dancing princesses or my "The Luck Child" will be real. (12 dancing princesses is very diverse, the princesses aren't sisters, but are all adopted from different kingdoms and represnt different styles of dance, but the two main focus is Clara and Sylvia two ballerinas, one black or mixed the other white, and Clara is first wooed by the night who wants to "save them" but eventually realises she'd rather stick with Sylvia and the two literally dance to happily ever after as BFFs, as a side plot two other characters will fall in love, two girls. Thumbelina is set in Mexico, and follows the original plot, but she is raised in doll houses (for the sake of goregous gowns and a bubbly little girl, I grew up near Arizona, a few miles from the Mexican border and I really loved visiting before we moved, I love the art and the language.Luck child is Russian and the girl is adopted by the prince and she saves the day the prince is a damsel in distress, while Lucky is a rough and tumble peasant girl who fights evil with a bandit friend, who is a traveller from either mongolia or the middle east, a funny man who is trying to make sure his new friend doesn't die)
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Just because you don't rely on movies and entertainment for rolemodels doesn't mean everybody else does. You have no idea how many little girls look up to the Disney Princesses, heck I was one. And it sucked that I as a Latina wasn't represented. 

It's hard to be entertained when your color/culture is ignored, stereotyped or seldomnly represented in a positive light. Stories do not suffer by including people of color, they actually benefit by it. If you look up fairytales from different cultures you can find new stories. 

This is not only an issue with Disney but with media in general. Disney is a huge target because their movies are the biggest animated blockbusters, therefore people request more from them since they have the biggest influence. 

What I don't understand is why people try to silence others for requesting more diversity. By showing a movie to a child with an all white cast (and the child isn't white) it might have negative effects on it since it's saying ''The world is like this''. People who are white or privaleged don't usually see it this way because they have so many characters that represent them and they don't go through the same issues minorities do. That's just reality. 

All in all just because you as a person don't have a problem with it doesn't mean everyone else sees it the same way. 
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Impulse-Comics Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Artist
I'm not silencing anyone or being racist, I'm just saying I have lots of problems with it, And I'm not saying the stories suffer, I'm dirt poor, have a hearing aid and yes I'm white but that's no reason for me to be guilty for living. I don't like the media's representation of women, either, but honestly that's why we're here, we should make it our job to make the media of the future. And I only asked for educating, not an attack on me for being white and "well represented" because I'm not, none of these princesses are like me at all, they didn't have an ear drum explode as a child, they never were sent to therapy for being "reatarded" and none of them were bullied and certainly none of them found out that they can't socialize in person because they're in the 500th percentile, which means only one out of 500 people think the way I do, I have psychologic evaluations every year.  I'm not represented at all, but I'm not perfect enough to be so I accept my lot and make my own princesses and kingdoms. 
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I never attacked you for being white. When have I said in my comment ''YOU ARE WHITE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND'' I just said that USUALLY white people don't know of the problems minorities go through. I'm sorry but I don't think you read my comment closely. Your previous comment was '''why do you take Disney so seriously?'' and ''Can't entertainment be just entertainment, the second you try to make it overly politically or societally correct, is the moment the stories suffer as a result'' . I was responding to that, not attacking you. 


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Impulse-Comics Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Artist
I'm sorry but I have good english in writing in reading but reading in between the lines isn't my forte. I was not saying that stories suffer because of minorities, that was my opposite intention.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
So it was sarcasm? In that case you should've clarified it ^^;
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Slime-Series Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
I like all four but I am hoping for both 2 and 4 the most.  A princess who wears glasses (like many people out in the world) and in the end keeps them (or just replaces the frames but still wears glasses).  Anna could of been perfect for 2 and 4 and I feel Disney missed out yet at the same time while we the critics might praise Disney for such risks the marketing and merchandise probally would take a hit and thus why I don't see Disney taking that risk just yet.

Other note I fund interesting was this movie had 100 million dollars LESS budget then Tangled had.  This makes me feel that while they did a amazing job during the research part of the movie (studying snow and ice, impacts of snow and ice, and villages of Noway all that helped the movie's evoment) I'm certain that the evoiment itself cost them buckets of money, the rewrites and constant changing of designs (though many movies have that happen to them as well this one had it since Walt Disney was alive) made it limiting when it came down to creating heary detialed features people.  I feel they worked very hard on the Snow Queen Elsa first then Anna second.  They also probably used the same software and models from Tangled in help keeping within budget limitations.

In both Elsa and Anna's designs I can see what they were aiming for: Conflicting personality types yet still be able to see as sisters.
They started this as a 2d project but after the dissapioting results from Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh yet great results from Tangled the project was changed to computer aniamtion vs hand drawn looking movie.  There are aspects that's easier to pull off with 2D/hand drawn style then computer animation/3D and the same can apply with computer animation/3D over 2D.  ALL of the charaters have had constant changes to them based on how they changed to story each time and the relationships and roles in the firm.

Here are some concept pictures of early Anna who at the time was called Sami instead: thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , finally for Anna here ljs1098.deviantart.com/art/Dis…

Elsa had many WIDE changes to her: thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , thedevilreborn.deviantart.com/… , mg137b.deviantart.com/art/Elsa… , mg137b.deviantart.com/art/Elsa… , dracarysvg.deviantart.com/art/… , mg137b.deviantart.com/art/Beau…

Considering they were planing to make Elsa a villain (who who be redeemed at the end as her song "Let it Go" was written as her Villain song who made the endless winter plus a snowmen army she lost control off or lost to the Devil) her design had to be a mix of intimating yet when not evil or scary kind and also frightened.  Side note like many musicals many songs and ideas that was written for the movie that didn't make the final cut can be heard on the Deluxe CD of Frozen (you can also find them on Youtube and I personally enjoyed them and felt they added to the characters and if this movie becomes a Broadway musical that they could be added intelligently in).

Here is hoping that the next time They will have one of the above ideas for a official Princess (I'm hoping for 2 and 4 the most first with the 3 and 1 following in a later movie).
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you soooooooooooo much for the concept art, this is certainly very interesting. It's saddening that they didn't give this movie more money, I'm sure the character animation would've been much more impressive if they got a bigger budget. 
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Slime-Series Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
That is what I feel happened to.  The characters are well written and played off each other very well and most of them look good (the Male charaters and Elsa whom I got the feeling they put slighty more effort into due to being the Snow Queen thus a major player and impact on the story and chraters).  The two charaters I love is Elsa and Anna due to how well write and great voice work with the only down side being Anna's desing.  It's good but still lacking.  Interesting I don't feel that disappointment when seeing her amoung her sister though: mg137b.deviantart.com/art/A-si… , mg137b.deviantart.com/art/Elsa… , mg137b.deviantart.com/art/Sist…

I feel they again needed to capture the different but loving sisters feeling (they are the sun and moon but Sisters who round each other out) and so looking at artworks and such pictures Disney did get the emotion in me (and emotional expression and single captures is very important).  Still I like how colorful (and based on Norway slightly more accurate in fashion) "Sami" was plus add some glasses or a eye patch and I would have been very pleased at that risk.  Perhaps the move to 3D, fear of put off marketing and merchandise sales, and need to save money due to budget concerns is what force their hand.  I also feel that unfortunately based on the world and culture we live in characters who look so-so or below average would be attack by critics and people on forums and such vs a sexy/cute/beautiful who can get away with many things and easily gain a fanbase despite personality being the same.  How many characters gain a fanbase BEFORE the movie or episodes even air based on media leaks and so forth because they look stunning?

Hopefully with each experience and updates in technology Disney will be able to not have budget limitations to hold them back and take the gamble and finally have such a princess in a extraordinary film (and we the viewers in kind respond and see such a film in return as it's piontless and tragic for Disney to take a gamble or listen to us then we don't follow suit).  Disney brought back 2D animation and yet Princess and the Frog lost out to "The Chipmunks Squeakuel" so unfortunate I think WE are the major reason such things now as WE didn't do our part for 2D and Disney's past gambles.  The mis-marketing focusing on Male or comic characters and elements vs musical or the ladies, single work titles that goes away from the female elements such as Tangled vs Rapunzel, the loss again of 2D now giving 3D (both that I do enjoy as a aniamtion fan) and more because of what happen in 2009 with Pricess and the Frog and lack of viewers for Winnie the Pooh movie.  Frozen currently is now the largest Box office opining Disney ever had for their animated mvies thus things probally won't change soon as money is very important in running a company and we in turn have spoke by the box office numbers past and present plus based on there own research it seems to back it up.  So before we can even expect from Disney we have to look to us for the problems, budget, or decisions that forced the hand of the people who work and make important job gambling choices at Disney (if they don't do well by the books even John Lassaider can be given the exit door by stock holders).

Also to hear some of the cut songs (some that I really liked) : www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G21o_…
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Ryua Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I would love to see chubby women become mainstream beauty again. Go back to the fourties, and there were ads that literally said, "Are you unable to gain weight? Are you jealous of your curvier counterparts? Try (whateveritis) today!" Not to mention the classics, all those oil paintings by the old masters. Those women were the most beautiful whores and courtesans and women of the day. The best the artists could afford, and they aren't just a little round. They're huge. They have cellulite and lumps and would be classed as obese today. And yet they were the ideal of feminine beauty.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yep! Studying the history of art really astounded me on how curvier women were so worshipped back in the day. It's amazing how everthing turned around so drastically.
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Ryua Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I just keep telling myself that means it'll swing back around to a more natural shape again soon.
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PokeRouge Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
These are pretty cool, I'm not sure which one I like the best :D
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm glad you like all of them! :)
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happyametuer Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
I love the idea of having princesses like these! We need more PoC princesses (and I never count Pocahontas since she's a walking stereotype in a Barbie shape) and physical flaws and more risk taking! I want to see Disney stand up against nay sayers against change and say "No, we have a spine, and we'll use it to give our stories more variety and thus gain a wider audience and give stories a timeless feel!"

Instead of just her eye, how about a good section of her hair, her eye, and a Zuko-esq scar? An eye or a single lock of hair seems way too specific for an accident.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
True :) You are right, a scar would've been much more realistic. I just don't know how 'frozen' scars look like, ah well. I shall research it next time. 


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happyametuer Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
They seem to have a range and it's definitely under the category of "notable physical flaws." They can be red and scaly like burn scars or grey in tone. A lot of recovering scars appear bloated. Severe cases look completely black with fleshy parts falling off (with the scars being amputated digits).

Search under "frostbite scars" if you wanna take a look.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Alright! ^^
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SpringDragonfly Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
All of them are nice, but I'm really drawn to the more risks version, even though I haven't seen the film yet.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you :D
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SpringDragonfly Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome!
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TheRandomWho Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist
I like 2. and 3. uvu Since Frozen is supposed to be a Nordic fairytale (if I remember right?) the princess in my opinion should be white. (Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying that in a racist way. We just are really pale in the north.) But design wise, all of them look good uvu
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Frozen is set in Arandelle which is a fictional kingdom. The rest of the stuff like the clothes and arquitectual designs are a mix of different historical styles, therefore it's not set in Norway. 

'The Snow Queen' the fairy tale it's based from, BARELY resembles Frozen, so much so that they don't even associate it with the fairytale. 

Thanks for the compliment but I disagree with you on the 'they must be white' thing :). Princess and the Frog was an European fairytale but they set it in New Orleans, why couldn't they set the Snow Queen in another place like Alaska?
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TheRandomWho Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist
Well, if the place was set to Alaska, then it would be okay uvu I wasn't sure where it was placed, so that's why.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It doesn't matter where the fairy tale is set really as long as the moral is still there. 
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TheRandomWho Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist
True. But if it was placed on some of the Nordic countries, like Norway or Sweden, then they should be white, that's what I tried to say u_u" Sorry, English isn't my first language.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Except there ARE POCs in Norway and Sweden. Like the Saami (www.facetofacemedia.ca/files/A….
If they can have a talking Snowman, a POC nordic princess isn't far fetched. 
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TheRandomWho Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist
Oh, right, I forgot saami people. Sorry then, I'll just shut up then u__u"
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Don't worry :) Everyone makes mistakes. 
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SadUnicorn Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i like the varity of body types alot! i mean disney, when stechting for Tangled, Flynn was actually alot chubbier and more of a "bear" in body type and i though disney did not help making him slimer. sure, there is Wreck it Ralph, but he was made to look like that sorta chunky, since he was a game char.

i would really liek to see some a bit rounded or variaty types, since alot of girls loom up to those skinny princesses and making it so that most of the rounder and stronger build on is the bad guys and the skinny ones are heros, is putting it in a bad light.

i like all those ideas, and i think they should make some more historically accurate protaganists too and some with flaws, so childrean see that everyone is greta the way they are
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Agreed :)
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SadUnicorn Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you for agreeing~!:)


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Karalora Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Re: glasses and historical accuracy, corrective lenses have existed since the late Middle Ages. The time period for Frozen is vague, but definitely post-medieval. Anna could absolutely wear glasses.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
The Duke of Weselton is wearing glasses too :)
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Karalora Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I thought so, but at the time I typed the comment I didn't feel like looking up an image to make sure.
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Haha understandable :)
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Renee-Niels Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
On the unhealthy lifestyle bit, I agree! In fact, portraying your female protagonists as all stick-thin is incredibly unhealthy, to! Not only does promote low self-esteem, but it could lead to eating disorders, etc...
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Exactly. It's fine to give them a petite body type since that exists but 'each one of them'? It's unhealthy.
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Renee-Niels Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Definitely! ... Personally, I find a little pudge adorable~ >w<
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CaramelFrog Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You and me both :D
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